major-ocelot:

raiden—raikov:

frecklelove for ocel

what a fuckin nerd

thatkindoffangirl: Young Ocelot as a flair bartender.

dragunovi:

I used a reference and still looks weird

chiripepe:

fonbella:

People discussing the sexuality of characters in MGS series is so interesting because

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idk he either sleeps with everyone or everyone wants to sleeps with him, that’s it, that’s the main reason everything goes wrong in this game

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Gayer than everyone above, literally everything that goes wrong in the series is because he couldn’t keep his dick in his pants for the guy above

Vamp, Volguin, Fortune’s dad, yes. I don’t know about everybody else on the list doe. The Boss was married to The Sorrow and it’s never suggested she’s lezbionic in any of the games that I know of. Major Raikov was definitely homo since he was Volguin’s lover and also the president of the US in MGS2 went for Raiden’s dick so he’s missing too. Don’t know about Big Boss, Solid and Liquid or Ocellot being gay or it being suggested either. And I have no idea who the girl with the sunglasses is.

The Boss had a relationship with Strangelove years before ever meeting The Sorrow, it’s more explicitly said here, and hinted in many of her other tapes.

Major Raikov was involved with Volgin, yes, but there’s no info on him being gay or bi, or anything else for that matter, so he’s not on the list because there’s just nothing on him we can actually claim as canon.

The president grabbed Raiden’s dick to confirm he was a man, not because he was after him. It was a dick move nevertheless (no pun intended).

Solid and Liquid aren’t even in the list?

Big Boss had sex with Eva, Paz and Kaz that we can confirm so far, which at the very least qualifies him as bisexual.

There’s nothing ever explicitly said about Ocelot but if you played all MGS games and try to deny Ocelot had a strong attraction to Big Boss, I’m not sure what to tell you other than you probably need to play the whole thing again.

newx7:

People who hate Chico for talking despite the fact that he is 13 and was tortured in inhumane ways that most people, including ourselves, couldn’t endure.

And people who hate what happened to Paz yet think Chico got lucky cause of what Skull Face made him do.

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subbyp:

drarry:

do u ever look at someone’s characterization of one of ur faves and just sit there offended on behalf of the character

being an otacon fan is a daily struggle

ivyelevast:

I don’t know about you guys, but I think Kojima was trying to tell us something.

strangeloaf:

banmemes:

soild-sanek:

paz fangirls are the cancer of this fandom and i’m gonna cut it off

Nice nice comparing a disease to people liking a fictional character go outside

i’m a paz fangirl who is also a cancer survivor, and if that didn’t kill me, i don’t think anything will, sorry!

Paz defense squad coming through!

Anonymous: Because people don't want an established character that never showed a trace of those kind of leanings foisted on them because the writer suddenly decided they wanted to be 'socially-progressive'. But then he'd already decided to shit all over her character by bringing her back from the dead for, again, no reason. Strangelove as a lesbian making moon eyes at other women is fine. The Boss suddenly being bi just because is Joss Whedon levels of bad writing. And I can't turn off anon bc no account.

strangeloaf:

'never showed a trace of those kind of leanings' what, do you want. for her to wear a shirt that says “I EAT PUSSY”???? there was no room for her to express that she was queer in MGS3, because she was far too occupied with the plot. i admit that it would have been NICE if we did get the feeling in mgs3 that maybe she had an alternative orientation, but 

the boss’s representation is honestly the IDEAL when it comes to a bisexual or queer character. there’s no reason she has to be flaming or expressive of it for her intent to be understood. it’d be uncharacteristic. in fact, it’s uncharacteristic for her to openly talk about her romantic inclinations at ALL.

notice how she never mentioned that the sorrow was her significant other either. we didn’t even know they were involved with each other beyond being apart of the cobra unit until we meet him, and then learn at the end of the game that he was her lover and fathered her child, Ocelot. we learn this through subtext that is WAY vaguer than Strangelove’s profession of love and devotion. that solidified the fact that she was not open about her love life. there couldn’t possibly be any “trace of her leanings” squeezed into mgs3 anyway- it was already a short game, and focused mainly on reintroducing the storyline from Big Boss’s POV.

it was characteristic for strangelove to bring it up because she is a sexually and romantically-driven character. she needed a motive for necro-ing the boss. and this was it.

also kojima is NOT a good writer! he has never been! NOBODY who is worth their salt in critiquing games thinks this! he has a huge reputation for adding really fucking arbitrary and useless things to the series, and the list of fucking useless additions he has is so long that i could devote a whole nother lecture about that alone.

but compared to making tortured and mentally-ill women dance seductively in front of a camera, trying to create a narrative that will bring to the gaming community the serious discussion of rape by turning a sexually-charged anime girl into a sexually-abused and dehumanized toy for the villain to get his sick jollies off with, and stuffing child soldiers into just about every corner they can fit into, then YES! this was an incredibly progressive gesture by his standards!

i met someone on f-list a long time ago who called the boss a ‘raging tumblr feminazi bulldyke’, and also posited strangelove as being ‘shoehorned’ on totally baseless grounds. i’m wondering if you two are the same person. i am guessing yes.

thatkindoffangirl:

fonbella:

People discussing the sexuality of characters in MGS series is so interesting because

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idk he either sleeps with everyone or everyone wants to sleeps with him, that’s it, that’s the main reason everything goes wrong in this game

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Gayer than everyone above, literally everything that goes wrong in the series is because he couldn’t keep his dick in his pants for the guy above

#YOU COULD MAKE AN HONEST TO GOD ARGUEMENT FOR ALL OF THE CHARACTERS IN THE SERIES #BEING AT LEAST BI #THOSE WHOSE SEXUALITIES AREN’T OUTRIGHTED STATED #AREN’T STATED EITHER WAY #THE POINT IS THERE ARE CANON BI CHARACTERS #CANON LESBIAN CHARACTERS #I GUESS OCELOT IS AS CLOSE TO A CANON GAY CHARACTER AS WE’VE GOTTEN #THERE’S NO REASON TO THINK THE BOSS MIGHT NOT BE BI #ESPECIALLY SINCE #UH #THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING BETWEEN HER AND EVA? #SINCE EVA DOES MUMBLE HER NAME QUITE A BIT IN HER SLEEP  (major-ocelot)

#are you fucking shitting me have you seen the boss she would CQC your homophobia back in your ass

This is the most amazing tag I’ve ever seen in my entire life you win all the medals

major-ocelot:

#THERE’S NO REASON TO THINK THE BOSS MIGHT NOT BE BI #ESPECIALLY SINCE #UH #THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING BETWEEN HER AND EVA? #SINCE EVA DOES MUMBLE HER NAME QUITE A BIT IN HER SLEEP 

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH BECAUSE

The Boss and EVA definitely knew each other before the game started, that’s the main point in The Boss being the ONLY one in the entire game to see through her lies and spying (EVA also mentions this at the end of the game). The Boss covered for EVA when Volgin found the transmitter in Big Boss during the torture scene. The two of them spent a long time together in Groznyj Grad while pretending to be working for Volgin. When Volgin found out Tatyana was EVA, it was The Boss who removed her from the scene and entrusted her with all the important shit she needed to know to save Snake.

AND THAT SCENE

IT PISSES ME OFF BECAUSE THERE WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING BETWEEN THE TWO and the game is pretty open about the relationship between characters, but NEVER THESE TWO.

Plus, even after the events in MGS3, EVA still had mad respect for The Boss.

LET’S NOT FORGET OUT OF EVERYONE WHO WAS CLOSE TO THE BOSS, EVA WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD HER FINAL WISH

I’ll fight anyone who says they didn’t have a thing, they so fucking had a thing.

People discussing the sexuality of characters in MGS series is so interesting because

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idk he either sleeps with everyone or everyone wants to sleeps with him, that’s it, that’s the main reason everything goes wrong in this game

Gayer than everyone above, literally everything that goes wrong in the series is because he couldn’t keep his dick in his pants for the guy above

I was browsing for Kaz pictures and I found this and I’m

Anonymous: No, I'd rather not. We'll just have to disagree. I'm all for queer characters in gaming, but to retcon and ham-handedly shoehorn a bi relationship onto the boss is the opposite of progressive, and typical of Kojima being a hack.

major-ocelot:

priestriviera:

strangeloaf:

now i’m really gonna kick your ass *rolling up sleeves*

How the fuck is it retconning???? How is it shoehorning???????????? What the FUCK???? like um.

If it had been the opposite — remove ocelot from the picture, sorrow is a woman, and strangelove is a man — would you have called it retconning and shoehorning a heterosexual relationship????? No you wouldn’t. You’re only calling it that as a get out of jail free card.

A character’s does not need to be revealed all at once, especially if they like more than one gender. It’s not retconning because the boss’s sexuality was never outright stated — if she had been stated as heterosexual then it would be a retcon.

It’s not shoehorning because obviously you don’t understand it. If it was shoehorning it would’ve been poorly done and you wouldn’t be arguing with us.

Get off ur high horse anon-san. Stop worrying and love the Boss, like she did with Strangelove.

It’s funny too because The Boss was never declared as being straight. Ever. She fell in love with a man. She had a child with him. That doesn’t make a person heterosexual. She could be bi. She could be pan. She could just not give a fuck. The only reason people call it “shoe-horned” is because they’ve already labeled The Boss as heterosexual regardless of the fact that she was never labeled as such in the game. 

I love all of you

Dr. Strangelove and Strange Love

priestriviera:

Now, I’ve written meta analyses for other fandoms. Dr. Strangelove is one of my favorite characters, so I decided to really pick her apart and see how she ticks! I hope you guys like this. Please ask me any questions etc. 

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